Packers XLV

Dear Vikings Fans,

Posted November 23rd, 2010 @ 04:11pm

This one's on you. It's not on Brad Childress. It's not on a bunch of overpaid Pro Bowlers. When the vast majority of you gleefully welcomed the gray haired texter into your arms last year, you were making a deal with the devil. You crossed a line that fans should never cross.

For 16 years you watched Brett Favre perform his magic with the Packers. You hated the fact that Titletown was relevant again and that we had the biggest star in the game. A QB that provided breathless moments and maddening moments, but he never missed a game and helped bring the Vince Lombardi home where it belongs.

Since your team was very good most of these years under Denny and Tice and Chilly, the rivalry got more and more intense each year, putting the Bears rivalry in the rear view mirror. It reached a point where your team decided to go after some of our best players, like Kampman, Sharper and Longwell.

We took it as a source of pride. If you can't beat the best, try to sign their players. Fine. If Ryan Longwell decides he'd rather kick indoors, I can't blame him. Even though he left Titletown as the team's all-time leading scorer, seeing your kicker go to your rival is just part of the game.

But when the Favre-Packers divorce went down, Brett tried to make a play to join the Purple. It didn't work and he had to deal with the trade to New York. By retiring for the third or fourth time after his season with the Jets, he had maneuvered the system to allow himself to be a free agent. Now he was ready to join the Purple--a talented team, yes, but mostly because he could stick it to Ted Thompson and the Packers organization.

A small minority of you were appalled. You could never, would never root for that guy. He was a Packer. Case closed. I admire that resolve. If Brian Urlacher joined the Pack, I would puke. But no, the vast majority of you couldn't buy your purple #4 jerseys fast enough. Forget the fact that you hated (though maybe admired) him for 16 years, no he was one of you, so life was great. He was on the field facing the Chiefs in a preseason game within 72 hours of becoming a Viking, and there were thousands of #4 jerseys in the stands.

Ah, but the football gods weren't having any of it. Terry Bradshaw didn't play for the Cleveland Browns. John Elway didn't play for the Raiders. Joe Montana didn't play for the Cowboys. Hall of Fame, top 10 all time QBs don't do this. If you allow this to happen, revel in this, you will reap what you sow.

First the football gods let you believe you were being delivered to the Promised Land. You got agonizingly close to the Super Bowl--only to see ol' #4 provide another championship overtime miscue. Then when you were happy to see your team do whatever it took to convince him to come back one more time, the football gods let the bottom fall out. Complete implosion: injuries, off-field indiscretions, bickering in the locker room.

It had to end this way. After Chilly's inevitable firing, the dust is settling, the ashes are still smoking and you are looking at what's happened to your team in ten months time. You are uncertain about your team's future. Who will be your QB next season? Your coach? Will any of the free agents return? You're back to square one. Most of us hope you get back on your feet quickly. This is a fantastic rivalry that's only fun when both teams are good.

Meanwhile, the Packers are poised to compete for a Super Bowl this year and for many years to come. I know it hurts. And I'd really like to feel sorry for you.

But I can't.

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Comments (38):

I completely agree. Favre arelady said we would make a DECISION by training camp so that the team wouldn't have to stand around wondering who their QB was. This situation was dealt with poorly YET AGAIN. I used to be a HUGE Favre fan, but every retirement and unretirement has cut his credibility for me.

on August 1st, 2012 at 04:02am

Cris Carter has been a Viking hater since he retired. Think he's still bettir that Moss completly eclipsed him. I hate Favre as much as any real Viking fan but he does make the team better and we'll ride him to an 8-0 start before T-Jax takes over to take us deep into the playoffs.

on August 1st, 2012 at 12:36am

Pennington is done for sure, but that might be a good thing for Chad. He can go somewhere else and maybe slgvaae part of his career.I can't wait for Brett to have a 3-pick day in the Meadowlands, the Monday sports pages at the Daily News will be absolutely frothing with rage, along with local sports radio too.

on August 3rd, 2012 at 01:56am

feed. Thanks for visiting!In case you just crwelad out of bed or out from under a rock, there was a trade of some significance last night Favre to the Jets and as expected, there is a ton of fallout to sift

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Hey guys !I'm not sure but i think one of you (jeff i think) said one day after an eagle game : the philadelphia eagels live and die with brian westbrook Is it possible, AT THIS TIME, that the NFL live and die with Brett Favre ?I gotta say that i agree with almost everything that carter said especially the part with the QBs that went trough training camps, being lied to .Anyway, Brett can unretired a thousand times, i just hope that NFL R&R will never retire !!!French listener

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on May 9th, 2012 at 04:31pm

Dear Brett: I said it in Aug. '09 when you got what you were scheming for since GB turned you away ... that being, "if you're playing for the wrong reasons (meaning revenge), then this will come back to bite you". Well, I couldn't have written this script, but it's a good old lesson in good 'ol fashioned karma. If you never believed in it before, you sure do now (but of course, you will never admit that). You used to be such a "what you see is what you get" kind of guy ... but since you were turned away (no one tells you where to go), you turned into what was may have been embedded in your personality all along. But GB fans were too busy embracing you (because that's how those fans are) to notice. Or perhaps GB created this monster in you, but in the end your final team payed dearly for that price. It started with all the lies you told right on national TV (the Greta V. interview comes to mind). Then it apparently went into thinking you were way above even your marriage when you played for the Jets. And remember how that season ended -- with players who wanted no part of you and a fired coach? But ah, that was all in your grand scheme all along because all you had to do was falsely retire again, ask for a release and you were free to become the rival's QB. You have been in cohoots with Bevell and Childress from the time that plane took off in GB. But yet you continue to lie to the media, the fan base, perhaps your family and obviously yourself by saying you wanted no part of "revenge". I'm not buying it for one second. To end your career on this tarnished note, both on and off the field, is really not at all what Packer fans envisioned. Players are released all the time, but none have reacted in the manner you have. Joe Montana went to KC where he continued to carry on in the classy manner he always has. McNabb has done the same. Al Harris and Aaron Kampman posted full-page thank you's in the Milwaukee paper because they know how special the opportunity to play in GB was and they are appreciative for it. Take note, because it is that kind of action that precedes their legacy. But yours is nothing close to that. In fact, I have no qualms about giving another player your old #4 (if anyone would actually want to wear it) and you going into the Hall of Fame as a Viking. After all, you can't state enough about how that was your best year ever. Someone please explain to me how 12-4 ('09) is better than 13-3 ('96) ... how not getting a MVP ('09) is better than getting it ('96) ... how losing that NFC Champ game ('09) is better than winning it ('96) ... oh, and how the trophy case in MN is still empty (as of '09) than the hardware that was added to the already filled one in GB ('96). So Brett, just remember the state and fan base that embraced not only you, but your family as well. When Deanna got breast cancer and when your dad passed away we were devaistated for you. I sent a card and memorial to your family's church in Mississippi. I watched the Oakland game in total awe and admiration for the kind of person and player you were. And again how we supported you 100% when you had vicodin addiction ('96) and alcohol addiction ('99) as well, when many would have given up. Did that ever cross your mind when you thought your own selfish revenge was more important than being loyal to the employer that made you the player you were? Sinykin's letter is dead on, for classy QBs just do not cross that line, only selfish ones do. As for the Minnesota Vikings, your "final resting place" for they had a full-page picture of you with the words "RIP" after a horrible showing a few weeks ago (even before the Packer fans), this is merely a team showing his much desperation as I've ever witnessed in my 46 yrs of watching/following the NFL. This isn't a Fantasy Team where you can plug in the players and expect all the egos to harmonously dance all the way to Dallas. Maybe try building your team the honest way, through hard work and players that are dedicated to make it their full-time job (ahem Brett, maybe being above training camp wasn't such a good plan after all). Plant all the blame on Childress for now, but the true identity of this team has already been revealed. I hardly think anyone alive likes the to see the words RIP next to their picture. Ask yourself if Green Bay would have ever done that to you? And if this final year really wasn't one year too long, Brett (as you note no regret in coming back), then may you only continue to fool yourself for a little while longer then. It's time for good 'ol soul searching now (right Tiger?). You have not only lost a lot of fan base and professional accolades, but that is only a minut fraction of the damage you have to done to your family should these allegations prove true. Before thinking in the moment about what "Brett" wants, think about the others that put you on the map ... Deanna, your daughters, and the Green Bay Packer team and fans. Lori Thompson

on November 23rd, 2010 at 02:10pm

The best written analysis of this situation I have seen. I applaud you Siny and I admire your ability to put to pen what ALL of us think.

on November 23rd, 2010 at 02:26pm

Dave, loved the letter to the fans. My initial comment was to Favre directly, whom I feel is mostly to blame for the debacle of this team this season. But Sunday was Aaron Rodgers' day ... a day that he had coming!!! I couldn't get "paragraphs" to show, so sorry fo the long-winded one paragraph comment below. Keep on blogging, my friend! I love your knowledge and realistic view on our team!

on November 23rd, 2010 at 02:55pm

Fantastic commentary Dave! You too Lori! Karma such as this is like beautifully written poetry. Favre and the purple are reaping what they have sewn. It is very simple. Funny how Viking fans have such selective memories. Think back. Favre "retires". He then changes his mind and the Pack says he can come back, but NO! He changes his mind again and decides to stay home. In the meantime, Rodgers is becoming entrenched as the Packers QB. #4 changes his mind AGAIN at the last minute and Green Bay says "thanks, but no thanks." Brett immediately runs to the national media for the sole purpose of badmouthing the Packers , whining about how they didn't do enough for HIM. (Thank GOD Randy Moss NEVER wore green and gold!) To this day the Packers as an organisation have not said 1 bad thing about him! (and he has certainly given them plenty of opportunity!) The moment I saw that the Jets were moving up in the draft to grab Sanchez and released Favre I knew Brett would get his wish to wear purple. If Viking fans could just understand one thing. When Favre went out of his way to QB w our biggest rival, even tho he would have been able to play for just about any other team, it was NOT jealously we were feeling. It was disappointment at his vitriolic exit and his vindictive betrayal. We couldn't believe he actually had it in him. So no we won't "get over it". And as for some of the so called pundits who are idiotic enough to think they are clever by making statements like: "Well, if ya break up with a gal ya can't be mad if she goes to the dance with someone else." Yeah, well going to the dance with someone else isn't quite the same seeking out your worst enemy at work and making out with them on You-tube! And btw, it wasn't the Packers who did the breaking up part. THAT was Favre. Ahhh but we Packer backers were all thinking "good luck with that you Viking rubes!" We knew what would happen. We just had to bide our time til the NFC championship game....BWAAHAHAHAHA! Now you knew what it felt like. There's your "white horse". But it wasn't enough for you. You sent the 3 wise-men down to Hattiesburg. I wouldn't be surprised if you do it again next year! (I can only hope you do!) -O and btw, we are ever in debt to you for "stealing" Chilly from us! :D - So here we are. 31-3. Best game ever! Loved that McCarthy defers the toss and Packers start the game with their defense on the field! (Gutsy, but not really, cuz they are JUST THAT GOOD!) Love that Vikings can't spell their players names correctly on their jerseys! Love that they can't even keep their measly little field goal to put 6 points on the board! Love that T. Williams intercepts Favre just before the half and the Pack gets 7! Love that we score on the opening drive of the second half! Love the bickering on the Vikings sidelines! Love that Capers doesn't let up just cuz we are ahead! But most of all, I love the coach taking out our starters, especially Aaron Rodgers. A-Rodge. Class in every sense of the word. The QB of the green and gold for years to come. Just one more thing for Viking fans to be bitter about. Never mind Clay Matthews, AKA: "The Bloodline" or.......the nickname hated by so many Minnesotans, "THE CLAYMAKER"! They can have Sharper, and Longwell, and Favre, and their precious Moss; (WOW! How flat was THAT "superstar to superstar connection!?!? What a total failure!!!) And Zigi can purchase as many high priced big-shots as he wants in Yankee like fashion, while Packer Fans sit back and enjoy watching the Green Bay Packers, (not the Green Bay "Favres"), just waiting for more trophies to roll in! GO PACK! All of our defensive superstars WILL DOMINATE the Falcons!

on November 23rd, 2010 at 06:49pm

WOW!!!! Head Cheese just delivered the eulogy. To recap, the Vikings are still the same old Vikings.

on November 23rd, 2010 at 09:51pm

Personally I like the Packers as a team. Lots of great players. LOVE Rodgers....he's going to be a special QB for years....and he appears to be very classy guy. But when I read stuff like you just posted I just have to laugh...your so haughty about your club and reading your post take such joy in pointing out that the Vikings are and will need to work very hard to get the club back to a decent place. Does it bother me that you do this, no not at all. But let me point this out to you. Your a grown man who literally takes pleasure in kicking a fan base and organization when they are down. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure many in Viking land would take the same shots should the situation be reversed and I would say the same to them. Look in the mirror and realize that you need to Grow Up. Best of luck to the Packers...I really want them to do well. I like the players a ton. To bad I can't say the same about most of their fans....

on November 23rd, 2010 at 10:35am

Fantastic letter - how do I post to Facebook?! Better yet, I think this should be a "Letter to the Editor" in Star Trib and Pioneer Press! And to think if the Pack would have gotten on their knees for Favre 1 more time like he wanted us to do (but we didn't and Vikes did), ARod wouldn't be our QB of the present/future, and very likely could be the QB in Chi or Minn for the next 10 years!

on November 23rd, 2010 at 10:43am

Well said Dave! The dust has finally settled the way it was intended to following the soap opera retirement debacle that Favre imployed on our Pack. This ending of Childress in Purpleland was in large due to #4. He has a "good ole buddy" relationship with all of the players in the locker room very similar to the "bar buddy" friendships we all had in our 20's and if he says sink the "Chilly' ship, then it's let's side with OUR leader(Favre) and get it done. There will surely be brighter days ahead right? Wrong! Favre and his ego needs to be sent packing next! He has accomplished one thing in Minnesota that he could'nt in Green Bay....He got a coach fired! More cudos to Ted Thompson & Coach McCarthy for running this premodona out of town!

on November 23rd, 2010 at 11:22am

You have expressed what many Packers Fan feel. You nailed it on the head. I guess I can't say I'm shocked but coming into work on Monday the purple fans didn't want a talked about the game at all. They knew what was coming . I take pleasure in kicking the purple fans when they are down. I've certainly had it done to me while the Pack had the down years. Nothing gives more pleasure than betting down on the purple. Grab a life vest purple fans. The ship is sinking.

on November 23rd, 2010 at 11:59am

well said Dave Well said

on November 23rd, 2010 at 12:21pm

Well stated Daveeyyy (Trent Tucker style), It's interesting how a player (#4) can go from being revered like no other, by myself and most other Packer fans and then become so equally reviled by those same people. It's a strange twist of emotion seeing Brint Farkle screw up this badly. It makes me smile. As a self realizing Favre apologist for so many years, it's almost sad to see how much he manipulated the system to satisfy himself. I remember in 08, when he had a chance to retire. He could have gone out as one of the greatest, loved dearly by the state of Wisconsin. Instead, he couldn't help himself and now is reviled in Wisconsin, as well as Minnesota (most Viqueen fans hate him again - you knew their love couldn't last). Its clear he has always thought he was bigger than the team, both in GB and in Minnesota. Now, the chickens have come home to roost. Legacy -dead. Fanbase-dead. Career-dead. Marriage-? Glad TT and MM were smart enough to see it coming and make the moves to set us up for the future. A future that looks bright. Go Pack!

on November 24th, 2010 at 07:50am

hey dave, i'll try this again, u have to make apush for McCarthy for coach of the year and TT for g.m of the year. we all wonder sometimes on his way of doing things, but the depth of this team is amazing. see ya

on November 24th, 2010 at 11:47am

Absolutely right on the money! As a native Cheesehead and lifelong Packers fan who has lived in MN for the past 18 years, I agree 100% - majority of Vikings fans became instant "Favre Lovers" the minute he became a Viking. This after years of laughing at Packers fans every time #4 made the critical mistakes to end their season and calling Favre a "washed-up choker". He joins the Vikings and is suddenly the greatest QB ever - in fact the NFL should just cancel the entire 2009 season and send the Lombardi Trophy to Minnesota!!! We all knew how it would end - we had to endure the entire 2009 season and 2 losses to #4 in purple, but it all just made the ending that much sweeter. Then came the annual off season "Favre Watch" - quite enjoyable now that it was the Vikings he was messing with! Sending those "3 Wise Men" down on a plane to bring him back was one of the most pitiful things I have ever heard of. This has been one of the most enjoyable seasons ever for Packers fans - finishing off both Dallas and MN is about as good as it gets - we'll take care of the Bears too. As for #4 - when he first appeared to be retired 3 years ago, I reserved 2 spots for Hall of Fame week in Canton 5 years from then - for myself and my son - to be there when he was inducted. When he unretired and ended up on the Jets, I cancelled that and got my deposit $ back. When he finally got his wish and became a Viking, I had totally had enough and just wished he would go away. Get over it? As you and others have stated, I don't think so. Favre thumbed his nose at all Packers fans - I for one will return the favor back at him. It's a sad ending for one of (formerly) my favorite players of all time, but he created it for himself. GO PACK!!!

on November 24th, 2010 at 12:21pm

Davy: Thank You !! Thank You !! Thank You!! You said it all !! I tried to give my Wrangler jeans away to some Viking fans but they do not want the "pants" . Maybe old #4 can make more decisions in his next Sears commercial !!

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