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Dalton or Green is an extremely tough qsiuteon to answer, and I won't attempt to answer it. However (going slightly off topic), the thing I think is interesting when considering the future is that it's way easier to guage a WR's talent as a rookie than it is a QB's. Is there any doubt that Green will always be an impact player? Dalton, on the other hand, stands to benefit much more from having a good team around him, so I think, reasonably, the jury has to stay out on him for another season. Don't get me wrong the kid has certainly impressed me, and I truly hope he continues to improve. But Mark Sanchez was thought of pretty highly during his rookie season, and listen to what people are saying about him now. Football is a team game; the players depend on each other, and that makes individual recognition an argumentative subject.

Dalton is putting up rare roioke QB numbers in wins and touchdown passes similar to Marino and a few others as mentioned above. He's a leader out there on the field and shows a drive for winning like other Top QBs. Green is the big number one receiver the bengals haven't had for a while and is on pace for well over 1000 yards and 10 TDs (also rare for WR roiokes). Dalton and Green have a great chemistry already so either one of them is deserving for award. Gresham can be just as big a weapon and mismatch if they get the ball down field to him more like they have lately. I'm giving the edge to Dalton who I believe was the 6th QB taken overall in the draft.

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If only they could split the NFL/AFC awards You've meoinnted several times that AJ's athleticism has bailed out an errant throw or 5 from Dalton, and I remember being stunned at one interception that was thrown to him the result of him getting not one hand on the ball and not just a second bite at the apple, but a third shot at making the catch and falling short, the last tip going into the arms of a player on the opposing defense. My jaw was agape. Few players have the agility and object-tracking capacity to get a second go at a ball, so a third (each occurring almost 4-5 feet from the previous touch) go at it was, to me, demonstrative of the ability which has set Marvin giddy.But Dalton has started every game so far this season. He's led comeback drives (usually starring #18) for wins or what would have been at least a tie but for referee interference or, less frequently, a loss. Few in Cincinnati would have bet to see a redhead on the sidelines this year who, instead of sitting down glumly while the defense was on the field, worked the sideline clapping and shouting like a cheerleader (a Ben-guy?), whose confidence has not only affected the play of others but to the extent that their awe of his demeanor can be read on their faces during interviews.The Ravens and Steelers both have been taken aback at his level of play at this stage in his career. Unlike A.J., they can't bring safety help over to double cover him (or triple, as the need might require). Unlike Cam Newton, there's no QB spy watching for the run, effectively adding a guy in coverage. But only one of these teams was talked about as going 0-16 (by a former Bengal QB no less). AJ should definitely be in the discussion, and the volume will probably depend how his last games go. But he's exactly as advertised. In the NFL.com re-draft, Dalton went #2 overall. Not exactly like finding a Picasso at a garage sale, but much closer to it than buying a van Gogh and it turning out to be the last he ever painted.

A couple thgtohus:- In terms of draft value, Andy's value as a 2nd rounder is amazing. He has all the intangibles, and there is nothing but optimism for his future. His leadership and poise beyond his years has taken over this team.- AJ Green is already a transcendent talent. He makes the entire offense better, and makes Dalton look like a superstar. Let's look at Dalton's games without AJ in the lineup. Granted, it's a small sample size, against the Ravens and Steelers. Dalton still had the moxie, the clutchness. And he still looked like he's got the makings of a future star. But without AJ in there, they just couldn't get the job done.- In the end, I think it's hard to separate one from the other. But the final tip goes to AJ. He's on pace to have a rookie season second only to Randy Moss. While Dalton's production, and command of the offense is impressive, AJ's season is off-the-charts.

I'd going to go with 24 to 13 Packers. McCarthy is likely to get conservative. The only was the Packers score 34 is with big broken play, like you said defensive, special teams or big runs. I bet you'll see a little more James Jones. It doesn't feel like McCarthy's style to deal out penance publicly. I keep writing, though I'm often wrong.

davey, u are sounding like the fantasy guys now. they said sit all panthers against capers and the pack. i'm the biggest packer fan there is, but, no so fast my friends. this is no fluke. they have talent and we did not get much pressure on brees. will miss jenkins alot and now neal is out for 2 months. cam is better then everyone thinks, we will win but we need to be careful. 35-24. but they will score. go world champs